Not freaking – just laughing

Sometimes even Golding has the power to amaze us!

We know he’s a liar. We know he’s a blustering buffoon full of deluded self-aggrandisement with an extremely tenuous grip on reality but this is too much even for him.

6Yesterday Britain First failed to muster 2,000 knuckle-draggers in Dudley. In spite of months of advertisement, begging Emails, rash promises and outrageous claims they still managed no more than 150 people protesting about the Mosque that’s really none of their business. We don’t know quite how many of the Biffers in Dudley yesterday were local but we do know that the majority weren’t.

This in spite of Golding’s and Fransen’s claim that the people of Dudley had invited them into the town to protest. It’s odd that these welcoming locals weren’t very forthcoming, isn’t it?

All in all the BF Dudley debacle was the massive failure that we all knew it would be. To summarize…

  • Almost no-one turned up
  • The pipe band never came
  • The locals didn’t want them
  • The veterans humiliated them
  • The council house was closed
  • The press was more interested in the opposition
  • Social media thought the whole outrageous fiasco was hilarious.

We blogged about Britain First’s ridiculous inability to organise a piss up in a brewery here. Golding couldn’t even run a bath, let alone a fascist demo. We even showed you the pictures to underline how big is the gap between Golding’s aspirations and the sad, pathetic reality.

And what was Golding’s reaction to those who pointed out the obvious failure of his ‘big day of action’?

We hope you’re sitting down as you read this….

Try not to laugh too hard now….

Golding BF Dudley sore loser left lies traitors

More to come like that? We do hope so. In fact we can hardly wait!

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62 thoughts on “Not freaking – just laughing

  1. The man is clearly a delusional demagogue. Seeing as their numbers are decreasing every demo, it seems, it won’t be too long before they fade away into obscurity. Until then, I’m happy to have them around to provide us all with a good chuckle.

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    • We agree Terry – he’s definitely inhabiting some sort of alternative universe. Either that or he’s completely delusional.

      It’s just a shame that BF are able to create such misery and irrational hatred among the British people. Let’s hope that when BF disappears the rank and file biffers will come to their senses and realise how futile and destructive their hatred and prejudice really is.

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  2. Having studied Islam for 15 years via reading the Qur’an and the Hadith(sayings and (ill)deeds of Muhammad I can clearly understand how stupid and utterly ignorant other comments on here are. You lot who know NOTHING of the 100+ very violent verses in that unholy invention of Muhammad’s many threatening death and destruction of non-muslims particularly Jews carry on with your lives on the extremely dangerous idea that “where ignorance is bliss it’s folly to be wise” True Muslims are COMMANDED by Allah to fight all democracies until Islam is established throughout the world. Idiots like you would be required to pay the jizzya(tax) to avoid being killed unless you became muslims.Of course,you lot would not know that nor would you realise that BF do a great job of outing would be terrorists(doing the work the police OUGHT to be doing) and protecting non-muslims in Tower Hamlets from being harassed by Islam Patrols. You ignorant lot make me sick!!

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    • Why is it that a lot of biffers who are, no doubt, non-muslim always claim to have studied Islam? Yet either seem to out right lie about it, or, after reading copy and pasted statuses from the bf facebook posts, misinterpret them?

      In any case, aren’t all religious scriptures primitive compared to present day morals? Don’t they all seem to condone violent behaviour towards one another? Hence why MOST religious people cherry pick the nice bits from their religious scripture of choice and live by that. And of course today’s morals and laws.

      BF are doing a great job?! Well, if you’re the tiny percentage of the population that have been swept up by this current scaremongering by an alleged ardent christian, then yes, I suppose you are naive to think they’re fighting or bringing about a crusade or whatever they like to think they’re doing. Fuck if I know.

      But for those of us who are grounded in reality (read majority of the population), BF are nothing but a joke. Over half a million likes (hey, they like to boast about it as if it represents something), and they can only muster 150, give-or-take, people to come and march with them. The police do arrest would be terrorists. If you are referring to Anjem Choudary, then he has been arrested. Few times I think.

      BF are not military, nor are they police. They don’t out shit; only incite hate, prejudice and bigotry by means of propaganda and blatant photoshop in many cases. I do admit BF do a great job at something though: comedy. Although I suspect it’s unintentional.

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    • Oddly enough this is very reminiscent of a conversation we had recently in the EBF virtual ‘office’. We were trying to decide whether or not Biffers really believe the distortions they spout or are they really so blinkered? What mental gymnastics do they employ to overcome their cognitive dissonance when they see Muslims being polite or immigrants working hard at productive jobs?

      Unfortunately we didn’t manage to resolve this question. But at least we asked it which, we suspect, is much more than most Biffers ever do.

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      • It is extremely difficult to respond or argue with those on this board who know so very little about Islam and are just too lazy to read the Quran and Hadith and learn what horror awaits them on its pages. You all seem to view all muslims with rose coloured spectacles. I also know pleasant,hard working muslims who dont follow or believe in the violent verses but if you lot do not understand that there is a strong and growing undercurrent of militant Islam right across Europe intent on causing mayhem then I reckon you are being even more blind and ignorant than you have displayed thus far. Look up Jihad Watch and read,mark learn and inwardly digest!

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        • I’m glad you actually differentiated between “militant Islam” and “pleasant hard working Muslims” Unfortunately, Britain First do not. We are aware of those people who seek to cause division, of course we are and we speak out against them. What we will not do is become obsessed with fear over it, so that it affects our daily lives. That is JUST what terrorism is and we will NOT give in to it! Don’t you think those “pleasant hard working Muslims” are affected by that? I think you will find that they feel it a lot more than non Muslims when they are bullied and heckled because some nuts have hijacked their religion. A book can’t hurt anyone (unless you drop it on your head) It’s people that hurt other people, not religious text.

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          • Some books can hurt a great deal. The eminent Islam critic,Geert Wilders,rightly compares the Qur’an with Mein Kampf. and says that in Holland BOTH should be banned. Both are full of hatred, violence,death and destruction. The Nazis were inspired by one and disaffected muslims by the other. Do you anti-biffers ever stop to think why so many muslims are keen on biting the hand that feeds them. As Wilders has said AND the Muslim Mayor of Rotterdam “If you dont want to behave here then in Arabic “Fuck off”

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              • I comment on this utterly biased and ignorant site in,probably,the vain hope,that you will read at least some of the Quran and Hadith and understand the problem of Militant Islam.

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                • No you don’t. You come here pretending to be a scholar in the hope that you’ll look cleverer than you are. But you blew it by pretending to know the bible and we caught you out.

                  Silly biffer.

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                  • Apart from our Lord righteously chasing the money lenders/changers out of the Temple please do tell me of other “violence” in the New Testament.

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                    • Jesus buying swords for his disciples prior to entering Jerusalem, Paul’s story of children ripped apart by bears Jesus endorsement of the law of Moses, the coersive threats of violent sadism (Hell) throughout, the rules about treatment of slaves (off the top of our heads).

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                    • Just go away and read the first 100 verses of the Quran and the Hadith. Blood,death and destruction of non-muslims drips from its pages. Jews are described as “apes and pigs”. Not a single Islamic State has ever signed up to the 1948 UN Declaration of Human Rights. Do look up the Website of Former Muslims and read what they think of Islam.

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                    • This is our blog, David. We’re not going away. And as long as you claim expertise you clearly don’t possess to justify Biffer hatred we’ll continue to call you on it.

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                    • I reckon that I have exhibited more “expertise” than the lot of you combined. I have consistently asked you about the Qur’an and none of you can muster a single response!

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                    • We admitted we’re not scholars of the Qu’ran. However if your lack of expertise in Christian scripture (which you also claim to have studied) is anything to go by, then neither are you.

                      What we do know is that Britain First radicalises both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. They don’t combat terrorism – they fuel it.

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                    • To admit that you have only a scance knowledge of Islam via the Qur’an,Hadith and Sunna is a dreadful and very damaging admission. IT is ISLAM we are debating here not Christianity. You are the perfect examples of “where ignorance is bliss t’is folly to be wise”,except that to be so ignorant of Islam in your case is almost criminal.

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                    • Do you lot still not recognise that Islam is the ultimate fascist ideology far worse that Communism and Nazism. I suppose that you all vehemently support HNH and the ghastly UAF whose protestors are arrested in far greater numbers than even the deplorable EDL. By the way it is reliably estimated that muslim armies since the death of Muhammad in 632AD have been responsible for the deaths of some 250 million.Not counting those by the many terrorist groups killing and maiming across the world at this time. Also, as you are all non-muslims you and all so-called “moderate” muslims are all for the chop when Anjem Choudary,Abu Izzadeen and their followers get cracking.

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                    • Is it not possible for you to answer my perfectly sensible question. I have asked many of your lot the same question and none of you ever come up with an answer. Is there some sort of mental disease in your ranks??

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                    • It would be nice to know your real name. I do not need to be entertained just given some sort of response that indicates that you know even a tiny bit about the subject in hand.

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                    • I can thoroughly recommend JIHAD WATCH today.It has TWELVE most interesting,factual accounts of Islamist terrorism.

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    • Where does your hatred come from? Do you know any Muslims? I do, and I speak as I find and none of them have ever been rude to me personally. This is the other flaw in the biffer debate. (aside from comparing the bible) The only people I get threats from, is people on the far right. You do not do a very a very good job convincing me that you are right because it’s either insults or threats. You claim to be educated yet your response seems to be at odds with that. Please educate me. Which “would be terrorists” have Britain First outed to the public?

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  3. al-Ziamani recently sent down for a long term,someone the police had no adverse information about. And another thing,,none of you anti biffers(what a STUPID name) have ever given me any indication or proof that you know anything about the Qur’an,Sunna or Hadith and why should I respect anything you say when you are displaying such ignorance!

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    • You don’t need to respect our opinions. That’s up to you David. Some peoole are too blinded by hatred and paranoia. We understand that. But some will understand what we’re saying. Even some Biffers have seen the light and many more have rejected BF outright who may have become Biffers because of our work.

      The fact that you can’t see the truth won’t stop us saying it.

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      • I could never in a hundred years understand nor respect what you say because none of you anti-biffers have given me any evidence that you understand the grave danger of militant Islam which takes its inspiration directly from the Qur’an. If you deliberately turn a collective blind eye to what is going on right across Europe then you will be horrified when violence comes to the UK in buckets. “Truth,what IS truth” as Pontius Pilate so perspicaciously said Please tell me what-if anything you have read in the Quran and give me chapter and verse and I shall be delighted to learn of it.

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        • Your first sentence above negates your last. Why should any reasonable person waste time trying to persuade a Biffer like yourself who has already made it clear they won’t listen?

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    • Ziamani was arrested in June last year on an unrelated matter and police found a ripped-up letter to his parents in his jeans pocket, in which he had written about mounting an attack on a British soldier. That was Britain First that did that Not the police
      ??

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  4. As none of you has given me ANY reason why I should listen to you and have never answered the questions I have posed then that is a reasonable answer.

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    • Right, you claim to have 15 years of knowledge of Islam…then you mention Jihad Watch – is that where your knowledge comes from? Come on mate, Robert Spencer is clearly islamophobic (and has been criticised for being so), and he and Geller are even banned from entering the UK for being extreme!

      Yes, extremists are evil and bad. It’s a global consensus. But friendly and peaceful people far outweigh the number of people who want to commit heinous atrocities. For somebody who brings up nazi’s, you may recall them having it in for a certain religious group that ended in mass genocide…Hmm.

      I’m not sure why you keep imploring us to read the Quran (how do you know any of us haven’t?), but do remember, it’s religious text that’s over millenniums old; morality was vastly different back then and since, the zeitgeist has changed. As I said before, it’s futile harping on the how violent, barbaric and regressive it is, and other religious texts for that matter, as muslims and every other religious group cherry pick what parts they believe and many interpret passages differently (hence why I always argue our morals today are certainly not something we get from ancient books).

      No one is turning a blind eye to the horrendous shit done in the name of religion; don’t be absurd. But there are organisations, forces, governments and even religious heads across the globe that are doing their best to clamp down down on these small percentage of groups. All BF do is incite unwarranted hatred towards anybody that isn’t white and british it seems. They contribute fuck all to any real effort to counter extremists. No in fact, in their blind rage, they are resorting to extremism themselves. Going so far to outright lie, con people, incite hatred, manipulate photos and exaggerate numbers to fit their agenda.

      And it evidently works as, people buying into their propaganda, foam at the mouth, spout vitriol and derogative comments; some even going so far calling for genocide and the destruction of mosques worldwide. And what do the BF leaders do? Nothing. They leave them there, encourage them and even “like” them. If you wanna compare anything to nazis, well, you could very well be a part of such a group. At least I assume you are a supporter of BF anyway given that you think they are “doing a great job”.

      Yeah what a great job they are doing: 150 thugs shouting abuse, disrupting a community and…well, doing nothing to change anything. They aren’t raising awareness, they are not counter terrorists, they are not anywhere remotely a political party that will be taken seriously. Ever. They are all delusional and paranoid; possibly xenophobes and racists too, looking at ways to justify their regressive views, and being a part of BF is an easy way to do so as it gives them a common voice which they can all share to a minority of people who’ll listen to them; it gives them a sense of “kindred spirit” if you will, knowing full well their families, friends, work colleagues and bosses would frown upon their behaviour – perhaps even disown them. Shit, it’s almost as if BF is a cult!

      I think I have given enough of my time replying to you. It’s a shame it’ll all probably go over your head. Keep up the good pretend fight though, won’t you? I’m sure at least Paul appreciates another white knight. And their money.

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        • I rejoiced when Geert Wilders was allowed to show his famous short film Fitna to the House of Lords some years ago. If our Government had not turned a blind eye to its clear message and strengthened the anti-terrorism laws we would probably not be having such a heated exchange now.

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        • My knowledge of Islam comes from many sources. Intense reading of the Qur’an and Hadith,from Jihad Watch, from the Forum of EX Muslims and especially from the books of the famous former Muslim writer Ibn Warraq whose books, Leaving Islam and Why I am not a Muslim are acclaimed international best sellers.Also from Bernard Lewis one of the greatest ever Islamic scholars. I urge you all to enlighten yourselves and follow my example.

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      • You rejoiced the film being dismissed? Cool. As ebf said, nothing heated on my end mate. If you want to hate whoever, be such a negative nancy and live in fear of those who live a little differently, then that’s your prerogative.

        Heh, as I said before: at least we get a chuckle from BF’s antics. Every cloud has a silver lining, eh.

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      • Look David, I do have some respect for you as you come across more intelligent, eloquent, articulate and level-headed compared to anyone else from BF I have had discussions with. If you and BF were about just opposing extremists (not just muslims), I would be opposing them with you. I don’t know about you, but BF certainly are not just opposing extremism. It seems their real agenda is having a country for white brits only. One only needs to look at the comments on their page. Hell, look at the articles on this very blog. EBF are doing a good job of exposing them!

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        • Terry, I can assure you that I merely regard BF as a group who in their strange and outlandish way are at least trying to alert the authorities that IMO there IS too much Islamization happening right across the western world including the USA. Geert Wilders to my mind is right when he states that our Judeo-Christian culture is vastly superior to Islam. Up until the Moors were expelled from Granada in 1492 Islam could boast an admirable culture but in FACT there is nothing in the Qur’an to support ANY culture and there are SO many factual howlers in that book,one of which states that the sun revolves round the earth and the moon came down in a muddy pool. Islam also claims that muslims founded America 300 years before Columbus!!

          Please believe me when I say that the vast majority of you anti-biffers are a LOT more intelligent than the followers of the BNP.

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  5. Mr Howard you must be blind-probably deaf and dumb too and a friend,wife or partner deals with the comments on here! In almost every post of mine I have asked questions,particularly about your lot’s knowledge of the Qur’an,Hadith and Sunnah.

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  6. No danger in increasing the number of mosques in the UK? Read the statement by one of the most respected Islamic leaders in the world,President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey. “Mosques are our barracks,minarets our bayonets,domes our helmets and the believers our soldiers”

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  7. David, as you are such an eminent scholar of Islam, i’m interested don’t you seem to be aware that there as as many interpretations of the Qur’an as there are Muslims. The interpretation that you and other right wing ‘experts’ place on your apparently extensive studies is just one of many, although.curiously it seems to be exactly the same interpretation that the extremists you claim to despise have ascribed to.
    It appears you have a lot in common with these people, not least a curiously desperate and aggressive need to create conflict and find enemies where there are none.

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    • Dear Bob, Of course I am aware. HOWEVER, it is almost universally conceded,and most importantly acknowledged by the leading school of Islamic jurisprudence, the Al Azhar University in Cairo and the other three schools is that the only ORIGINAL and authentic version is that collated by the Caliph Uthman about twenty years after Muhammad’s death. All official fatwas and instructions from Allah through Muhammad stem from this. This Qur’an is the one Anjem Choudary and ALL the various muslim terrorist groups quote and rely on for their ill deeds. Other versions are merely apocryphal!

      I do have a great deal in common with anyone combating Islam. I am an old man now but if I could somehow claw back 20 years I would spend it helping to save muslims by converting them not necessarily to Chrisianity but to EX Muslims free to think for themselves and free of being told under pain of death to SUBMIT to their disgusting god,Allah. I have never hated or even disliked so called “moderate” muslims but I have an enduring hatred of an ideology which contains verses like these from the Uthman Qur’an.
      Q 5v51 “Believers do not take Jews or Christians as friends” Q9 v5 “Kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye may find them” Q8v12 “I will instill terror into the hearts of the Infidels,strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip”( this verse is often heard from ISIS)Q4v76 “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah” Q8v15 “Believers,when you meet the Infidels do not turn your backs on them,anyone who does will incur the wrath of God and hell shall be his home”. My “enemies” are never muslims doing their best to live peaceful, happy and fulfilling lives but ANYONE who even tries to convince any other that Islam itself is other than a death cult unfit for the human race and,arguably,far more damaging than Communism and Nazism put together.

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  8. Just a quick question- You use these quotes from the Qur’an to scaremonger about how violent Islam is, but you state you are a Christian, whose holy book is just as bloodthirsty and extremist (Numbers, Chapter 31). How do you reconcile these facts to claim any kind of moral superiority?

    I applaud your dedication in studying Islam and reading their scriptures, however it appears that you have missed out on deeper study of your own faith while endeavouring to incite hatred against another. Jesus Christ (the root of the title of Christianity) preached tolerance and acceptance, a teaching you appear not to be following as you are not accepting of others.

    There are extremists in the Christian community too The Westboro Baptist Church is a good example). Islam does not hold the monopoly on that, nor the monopoly on genocide, fascism, and a wish to convert the globe. The English Christians wiped out the Aboriginal Tazmanian population in the early 19th Century. The English Christians forcibly converted many peoples across the globe. England was not originally a Christian nation anyway, so does that give the pagans the right to call for the removal of Christianity from our shores?

    I don’t need to read the holy texts of any religion in order to debate the merit or otherwise of religious freedom. After all, Islam is only following the precepts of the Christian church by endeavouring to convert by any means, fair or foul, others practicing other religions and threatening violence, death and eternal damnation to those who do not follow their holy writings.

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