Britain First’s Deputy Fuhrer, the 100% British haridon with a remarkably Dutch sounding surname has finally said something remotely interesting. How cool is that? Well actually, not very.
Using the microblogging social media site, Twitter she published this…
Unfortunately for Fraulein Jayda she doesn’t appear to have thought through all the implications.
For example, Britain First OberstFuhrer, John Broomfield is himself a convicted paedophile. Whilst nobody here at Exposing Britain First particularly sympathises with Broomfield (or indeed any paedophile), castration does seem a little extreme. Still, if the Deputy Fuhrer, Dutchy demands it we’re sure it won’t be long before RCO Broomfield gets gelded by some obedient but overzealous biffers. Best sleep with one eye open from now on, John!
Her ‘no true Christian’ quip seems a tad strange in the circumstances too. Jayda’s a Roman Catholic which presumably means she’s heard about the ways that British catholics were persecuted after the reformation. Not that the staunchly sectarian Britain First cares a jot about any of that. Following in the footsteps of co-founder, Jim Dowson the biffers are most definitely on the side of the protestants. That’s a topic for another post altogether though.
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I think it’s very important here to note that Jayda has avoided the question. This isn’t about christian paedos; it’s about paedos who are not Muslims. The people in question may or may not be christians. In other words, why doesn’t BF ever mention non-muslim grooming, and the loke, on Facebook? And the question should be repeated until an honest answer is received.
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You’re absolutely right James. The anti Muslim bias is obvious and losesfe3gZF BF so much credibility – not that they hsd much to begin with.
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The reason is almost certainly that there is SO much muslim grooming in so many cities and towns in the UK that they dont need to
Arrests and convictions of Pakistani “paedos”have taken place in 16 of the above and are still on-going. BF are an extremely unpleasant lot but there is no doubt that non-muslim grooming pales into near insignificance in comparison and that is an honest answer.
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This might interest you, David
https://exposingbf.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/the-muslim-paedo-myth/
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Have you given me the correct entry. I have entered it exactly as you gave it but it wont register!
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Just click the link David. It’s the most recent post so you can find it by going to the top of the blog too.
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I have also sent you the same link on the “anti-Christian” Christians post David – just go to the most recent post if your unable to use the link for some reason.
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ebfblogger and grizzlyvamp, I fear that you both need educating about sex slavery and Islam.
Muhammad as Islam’s “perfect man” actually initiated the taking of sex slaves for himself and his warriors thus giving licence for the practice for future generations. Female sex slaves were taken in their thousands in the conquests by Muslim armies following the “Prophet’s” death,many,many were white.See the Hadith(sayings and deeds of Muhammad) and the Qur’an,notably Q4.24 and Q33.50. Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan,member of the Senior Council of Clerics,Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body stated in 2003 that ” Slavery is part of Islam and will remain as long as there is Islam.Those who argue that slavery has been abolished are ignorant.Whoever says such things is an infidel”.
It is no surprise to anyone who has even a small knowledge of Pakistan that the US State Department Trafficking in Persons Report of June 2009 stated that ” Pakistan is a source,transit and destination country for men,women and children trafficked for the purpose of forced labour and sexual exploitation” Hence of course the FACT that it is Pakistani muslim men involved in virtually all the cases of grooming and sex slaves in the UK
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Oh dear, David. I try so hard to believe you when you say you have no difficulty with the majority of Muslims and then you go and spoil the illusion. Now perhaps you could tell me how your post negates the evidence in my post about paedophilia within the non Muslim community.
Paedophilia is an issue in all cultures. It’s very silly to single out just one. It makes your true agenda in commenting here very obvious too.
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Oh dear,ebfblogger,”there’s none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE”. Of course there is paedophilia in various culturally diverse communities including Christians. But I confidently challenge you to name a single one other than Islam which has been given licence by its founder. My true agenda is to bring some sense and fairness to a blog which it appears to me could even have been created by a muslim apologist who has a fondness for bringing Christians,Christianity and white men to task wherever possible.Or am I just being totally oversensitive or plain wrong? Anyway, am I not permitted to stand up for a true religion which is permanently under attack? By the way, I have very often in your blogs stated that I have absolutely no problem with “moderate” muslims who make up the vast majority so your comment is most unfortunate to say the least!
If you do not wish me to have an honest opinion on your blog then please tell me.It does occur to me that you may not have read much of the Qur’an,Hadith and Sunnah from which my “agenda” is derived.
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Didn’t Abraham fornicate with his slave? I thought he was a founder of Christianity. But I wouldn’t judge all modern Christians in the abuses of their predecessors.
Please don’t think I’m an apologist for any religion. Or a detractor. As an agnostic I prefer to think of them all equally and they all have good and bad points in my opinion. Especially in the past.
Any one is no more ‘true’ than any other.
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Oh PLEASE ebfblogger,Abraham was the founder of Judaism as the vast majority of people know!
Why do you think that CHRISTianity was founded by Jesus Christ.?
Atheists such as the late Christopher Hitchens,Richard Dawkins and Pat Condell abuse and dislike all religions but appear to loathe Islam.Possibly not surprising since Islam and its armies,terrorist groups and individuals have been responsible for some 250 million deaths since Muhammad died. Calculated by many scholars on Islam especially by Professors Bill Warner and Sam Harris.
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Christianity was in no way founded by Jesus Christ – it was founded by the 12 and people like Paul. Jesus Christ was a Middle-Eastern orthodox Jew who adhered strictly to the law of the Old testament. In fact whilst Jesus was alive and for a short while after his death and resurrection his followers were considered apart of a “new” sect of Judaism which some Jews saw as a threat to the rest of Judaism. It was not until significantly later that Christianity was considered a break off religion from Judaism. Also Judaism, Christianity and Islam are collectively known as the Abrahamic faiths as they all based around the beliefs of Abraham. Most if not all Jews and Christians are in agreement about God up until Jesus when Jews believe he was a fraud or just a good man rather than the Son of God and believe that they are still waiting for the saviour the Old testament speaks of. Muslims believe a different version of the Old testament (some different names to characters and events playing out slightly differently as I understand it) to the version accepted by the majority of Jews and Christians and that Jesus was merely a prophet of God rather than the living embodiment of God.
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grizzlyvamp, I accept your argument without question. However, as Abraham is the father of these three faiths what went SO wrong with Islam when the other two, less so in Judaism but more so in Christianity at least tried to remain peaceful whilst Islam never really tried to and persecuted such great muslim philosophers as Averroes,Avicenna and Alkindus for their works. It does not help world peace that in many mudrassahs,even in the UK, and universities around the Islamic world that muslims are actually taught to hate Jews.
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Well I can’t speak for the rest of the world but anyone in the UK – of any faith were to teach hatred of Jews or any other group for that matter in universities would be quickly silenced and dealt with severely. That was certainly my experience whilst at university and carries on to be my experience. I am in direct contact with those still at university a lot and this is just not what I hear from them suggesting nothing has changed in the almost year I have been out of university. Hate speech is not tolerated in university and very often it is clamped down on and dealt with severely as I mentioned before. Yes there are occasions this doesn’t happen or satisfy everyone such as the Ms Mustafa incident coming to mind however this is the exception not the rule and most cases aren’t so high profile.
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The issue that I have (and I am sure ebfblogger shares) with your views is that they only have one logical conclusion which eventually ends in a second holocaust. You have an issue with Islam – fine, neither ebfblogger nor myself have issue with that as I hope we have shown. What we take issue with is that you equate Islam to encouraging these deplorable acts. This is at odds with your “moderate” Muslim view point and one of them has to eventually give way. At least Britain First follow through to the logical end of the rhetoric even if it is vile, disgusting, wrong and has no place in society. Ultimately your stance can end in only one of 2 ways – open acceptance of Muslims and recognising that Islam encourages deplorable acts as much as Christianity does or any other group or holocaust as the only logical response to this route of accepting the scaremongering is to attempt to remove all believers to remove the perceived threat they pose. Scary? Yes we think so which is why we are doing this.
I’ll admit that both ebfblogger and myself use the “Christian” community who are guilty of these things a lot to counter you but that is because you seem to be under the impression that Christians are perfectly innocent apart from one or two extremists who do not represent the vast majority. We keep trying to show you that this is exactly the same in Islam and these “Muslim extremists” are as much of a minority in Islamic culture and “Christian extremists” are in Christian culture. What we are trying to get at is that this is far from a Muslim problem and is actually a problem with humanity. We have no issue with you disagreeing with us, merely pointing out that the only logical conclusion to you always equating this group to some of the most horrific crimes and focusing on that group even if you acknowledge members from other groups are equally capable and guilty of committing such acts. Your stance on Islam will eventually lead to the paranoia of the Biffers and we are seeing that come through. You do seem to be a reasonable person with a conscience however your views and the way you express those views disturbs me because I see where that logic leads – even if you personally don’t follow down that path.
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grizzlyvamp, there are two misconceptions of yours that need addressing.The first is that Christian atrocities cannot by any logical and reasonable criteria be compared to the killing machine which has been Islam from its very foundation.
As you should have observed from the many occasions I have commented on MUSLIMS per se rather than Islam is that I have a considerable liking for many I have met and talked with and,possibly viewed by you as condescension,had huge sympathy for them being born into such a violent ideology one which has spawned so many leaving it despite the death penalty being called on them. Why is it SO difficult for you and ebfblogger to understand and realise that Islamic violence and killing has totally dwarfed that of Christianity, Communism,Fascism and Nazism all together. Allah demanded that muslims fight to the death for him whilst Christ died to give us life. Tamerlane as did other Muslim generals before and after him killed out of Qur’anic piety but many of his victims were Muslim, a theme repeated endlessly today. I have a strong liking for Ernest Ronan’s statement and for the great former female muslims such as Nonie Darwish,Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan all of whom are under death fatwas. Why do you think that so many muslims leave Islam when their apostasy is marked for their death?!
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Ahhhhh! You see we do not see evidence for this dwarfing of atrocities in Islam compared to other groups. We see all this violence purported to one group or another because of such and such a passage but the motivation behind the atrocities are always the same and are always based on greed, hate and a grab for power. Surely you have to concede that if there are plenty of “moderate” Muslims whom you like then it is not unfair to say that Islam can’t be all that bad. If you were to put all the atrocities into a pie chart according to the group that the atrocity is being purported to be in the advancement of and factoring in the amount of time that group has been around I seriously doubt that it would take up much more than about 25 – 33% of the pie and I have an unpleasant suspicion that Christianity may well have a larger portion than Islam. I do not have any numbers to base my assumptions on but again as you have not provided any verifiable evidence to support your claims and my limited memory of history throwing up exceptional amounts of atrocities associated with Islam I am unable to find reason to change my world view of Islam and of people.
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grizzlyvamp, I have gained from your many posts regarding Islam that you are extremely ignorant of what the Qur’an,Hadith and Sunnah have to say about its invented ideology. You are so happy to demonstrate your dangerous ignorance by continually gibbering on about bits of pie and you should know that your ridiculous “assumptions” are way,way out and conflict with every scholar on Islam including a number like IQ Al-Rassooli,muslims who concur that Muslim transgressions are destroying the hopes and aspirations of “moderate” muslims the world over to live peaceable,useful and rewarding lives. Your blatant ignorance does not serve EBF in any way only BF! You are just so ignorant of the horrors contained in the Qur’an that it spoils and negates all the good contained in some of your posts. Ignorance of the dangers of Islam is certainly NOT bliss.Your “world view of Islam” is a myth although not your view of muslims per se.
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The futility of so-called “Biffers” and,of course, BF is that instead of attacking the tenets of Islam they attack its members most of whom have no choice as they are born into it. But BF is not renowned for the individual or collective intelligence of its supporters as such as Paul Weston and Liberty GB which in its own way is just as dangerous as BF.
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ebfblogger, I would find it very useful for commenting on your future blogs if you would be so good as to give me your opinion on a comment by the C19 celebrated French writer,philosopher,expert in ancient oriental languages,historian and explorer Ernest Ronan. ” Muslims are the first victims of Islam.Many times I have observed in my travels in the Orient that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain the others in the practice of religion by terror. To liberate the muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him”
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I’d consider it an example of Eurocentric cultural arrogance
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ebfblogger, it should be of interest to you that of the huge number of apostates from Islam, many become Christians but far,far more become atheists.
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Many people lose their faith from all religions and either convert or become atheist. What is your point, David?
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ebfblogger,my “point” is extremely easy to comprehend I believe. Why do so many more muslims leave Islam than those who leave all other religions combined?
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So many more than all other religions combined? Really? Can you demonstrate that?
And you still haven’t explained your point – you just asked a question based on an incorrect premise.
What’s your point?
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ebfblogger,since the Moors were turfed out of Granada by King Ferdinand in 1492 pray do tell me of any culture other than a Judeo-Christian one which has dominated so many countries in the world? It is not a case of arrogance merely a general acceptance that it is the best and most equable for the vast majority of nations with the possible exception of those dominated by Shari’a such as Saudi Arabia,Iran, Pakistan, Sudan,,Iraq,Syria and Algeria which would not even be able to be governed under a democracy.
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Oh… wait. I think I see your point.
Muslim aggressive conquest = bad.
Christian aggressive conquest = good. Is that your point?
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Oh……..wait.I feel sure that you have no point!
Muslim aggressive conquest= bad and getting very much worse.
Christian aggressive conquest= bad but not nearly so much and a LONG time ago. Those are my points.
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grizzlyvamp,I realise very well that you are a very intelligent man so I am sure that you must realise that relying on assumptions is no way to argue your case.
Therefore,I would urge you to look up a piece by I.Q.Rassooli one of the soundest muslim scholars on his own ideology. A Shocking Interview with I.Q.Rassooli,Islam Expert by Clare M.Lopez will I am sure give you much to ponder.
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Speaking of assumptions I’m still waiting for you to justify your assumption about Muslim apostates outnumbering those of all other religions put together, David.
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ebfblogger, my “assumption” was,if I recall based on the numbers KILLED by Islam NOT the numbers leaving Islam! Professors Sam Harris and Bernard Lewis both calculated this figure.
HOWEVER,: themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/12/27the-fastest -shrinking-religion-in-the-world-islam/
should interest you I believe.
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Not at all, David. You were very clear. And you still haven’t backed it up with any evidence. Not that I’m surprised. That’s a very typical Biffer tactic – make a statement and ignore challenges to it.
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ebfblogger,I contend that I was perfectly clear and unambiguous on both points and I would be grateful if you would show me where I referred to the numbers killed in a previous post.
I am certainly no Biffer-a ludicrous word-but there is something i dislike more than anything else which is that I hate hatred and you display an awful lot of it on here! There is quite enough in the Qur’an and parts of the Old Testament to satisfy any sadist
It is also a very typical biffer AND ebfblogger tactic never to agree with anyone who disagrees with you!.
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This is ridiculous, David. Scroll up to review your previous comments.
I haven’t time for this now. I’ve a little girl to bathe. I’ll be back later – after you’ve reminded yourself of what you said today. Here’s a hint – it’s different from what you’ve said previously. That’s another typical biffer tactic.
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ebfblogger, I realise that you are having considerable difficulties in containing yourself from naming me as a Biffer. I freely admit that I do not HATE BF as you do but I have a very healthy deep dislike of BF because they attack ALL muslims and not Islam or muslim extremists and terrorists and raise money by false pretenses.
In my 79 years I have come to the firm conclusion that by insulting and denigrating people all the time it just hardens their resolve -in the case of BF members for example-to be even more convinced that they are in the right. Without any condescension,sexism or patronising on my part you come across so much as being a remarkably intelligent lady? so you may be able/willing to think of a way to strip BF of its members rather than giving them a huge broadside all the time.
I have no ideas at this stage myself except to work hard to discover its illegal practices and report them to the appropriate authorities.(HMRC especially) Planting a “mole” in their midst would be an idea but who on earth from EBF would be prepared to come forward for such a nasty,dangerous business?
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Ha. Good try. You Biffers are trying so hard to find out who the moles are, aren’t you? Asking on the blog is a bit obvious though – even for you lot. Go back and tell Dutchy and Folding that the spie in the camp are Mickey Mouse and a cowboy called Roy Rogers. That would match their whole operation so they’ll probably believe it.
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I just knew that you are not strong or fair minded enough to be able to resist calling me a Biffer because you had to spend SO much of your supposed precious time refuting facts and questioning my intense dislike of BF and militant Islam.You say that you are an atheist,the least fair minded one I have ever had the extreme displeasure of coming across as it is crystal clear that your preferred method of attack is issuing totally disingenuous statements and insults only worthy of a petulant child.
If you are SO touchy and vulnerable do go ahead and ban me but in doing so you would be removing the one person on here that brings a sense of reasonableness to an otherwise vitriolic board.
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This AGNOSTIC has no intention of banning you. Far better to let you keep posting on behalf of Folding and Dutchy – You give us a good insight into what you Biffers are thinking.
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Biased rubbish,ebfblogger, I have always considered that it is YOUR speciality.If I am to continue on here then do me and EBF generally a big favour and learn at least a little bit about Islam from the Qur’an,Hadith and Sunnah, That might keep you quiet for some considerable time. Goodnight!
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Goodnight, David. Give Folding & Dutchy my regards.
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Your comments just illustrate how little your hatred is doing to hurt BF when you could consider other more intelligent ways of damaging that extremely nasty bunch, If I knew your name I would happily spend a lot of money libelling you and showing you up to the rest of EBF.
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That’s not surprising. Libel is a standard Biffer tactic. It’s what people do when the truth doesn’t support their vendettas.
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Ok David, because I got sick of you harping on about it I decided to look up an English translation. The opening is actually fine, nothing that you wouldn’t hear in the Bible or the Torah. Then you get into a warped story of Adam but that is theology. I got as far as the Heifer before giving up. I admit not exactly a pleasant story but the laws of Moses weren’t particularly pleasant at times but in context of Moses law hardly disturbing. I’m sure that there is plenty in the Quran that is in a similar vein but I still do not see how that is relevant when so many ordinary Muslims including Imams and other leaders of the Islamic faith live in peace and integrate into western culture as best they can in accordance to their faith. I still think that the actions of the masses speak louder than a few petty passages derived from the law of Moses and applied extremely by a few nutters. Frankly I don’t see what your problem is – I don’t believe the Quran and see it as false teaching from a man who was clearly misguided but I certainly would not make the presumption of demanding its removal from society. Certain atheists of the Richard Dawkins ilk far too often make similar calls about all theism not just Islam! It is about perspective. As for the masses of Muslims who are peaceful and do consistently come out saying that ISIS etc are evil, wrong, and not representative of their faith speaks for itself really, and don’t go crying taqiyya as we’ve all had enough of hearing that old chestnut used every time to justify ignoring the very thing that is constantly being called for!
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grizzlyvamp,surely you have looked up the wrong article?? I.Q. RAssooli’s was in ENGLISH and was a criticism of the Qur’an and what was wrong with it.
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Sorry I was talking about the Quran I took a look at the Quran itself, I got bored of you constantly going on so I looked at the first 2 chapter, listening to the second in English and frankly got a bit bored. I have stated what I thought. Besides all the evidence/articles you present are to be taken with a large amount of salt as they are very clearly biased to an Islamophobic agenda. This isn’t Britain First – EBF don’t go banning people just cause you annoy them or disagree with them, no you have to be a lot worse than that and it was after several warnings used as a final resort on the Facebook page.
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grizzlyvamp at times you are as naive as a young child. Do you truly believe that just dipping a toe into an English language version of the Qur’an enables you to talk intelligently about Islam and,very stupidly branding me an Islamophobe. Still you are also ignorant about many aspects of Christianity so I am getting used to your idiocies despite your fragile intelligence.
Apparently ebfblogger is not banning me so you are left sharing blogs where I will be bound to correct your pronunciations on Islam and other mysteries about which you need enlightening.
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grizzlyvamp,it appears that I have wounded ebfblogger’s very sensitive persona and she has taken the hump and called me a Biffer which I find both disingenuous and thoroughly insulting. Just for EBF I cannot change my intense dislike of Islam but not for muslims but my previous post when I suggested a couple of reasonable actions against BF which did not contain HATRED but only intense dislike obviously did not meet with her august approval.
So,I now await my official dismissal but I just wanted to thank you very much for your comments and replies which all in all I have valued and enjoyed.
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Won’t ban you. I just see through you. Biffer.
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ebfblogger,just commenting on numbers leaving Islam. They far outnumber those leaving Christianity as my reference and others on that page testify.
Very,very few Hindus,Sikhs and Jews leave their religions SO I believe my contention is accurate. As usual I stand to be corrected or questioned.
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Or you could just admit that since you made the claim it’s up to you to evidence it.
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Why don’t you just read all the other articles around the one I quoted, ALL pointing to a considerable inequality between the numbers leaving Islam and those leaving Christianity.?
Any road I loathe tu quoque arguments and this one has already passed its sell by date.
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It has grown old, hasn’t it? You were exposed as a pedlar of biased rubbish hours ago, David. Let’s leave it now.
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